Swamijiś famous statement on Karma Yoga is Kar Natak! कर् नाटक् | play act your duty with 100% involvement as an actor on the stage. 😀🌷

Yes sir. Sorry for being not clear. It always happens because of habitual default_thinking: which always ends in fault, which result one cannot store in a vault. We have forgotten fresh thinking in every moment, every situation which is required every moment for our every movement. We always go by: i know this: i can easily handle it! Some journalist wanted to take a dig at George Bernard Shaw: and asked: who is the most intelligent person and expected Shaw to say: Myself: But Shaw saw thru it and replied: My Tailor. When questioned further Shaw replied: The only person who behaves sensibly is my tailor. He takes new measurements everytime he sees me. All the rest go on with old measurements! What a beautiful philosophical statement of upanishadic standards: my Guru Swami Parthasarathy always used to quote this. Sorry for being in a muse-ical mode: 10.15 ist every Sunday morning upto 1115 am. Live classes: not recorded. Thru zoom. So Zoom yourselves to a_soka. Ramu

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Dear Ashoka: Other than attending this Param Vedanta's Friday online classes, I would like to suggest another online class being conducted by one of my gurubhais, on Sundays, in English, at 10.15 to 11.15 a.m. The details are as under: zoom id: 8627278 1343 password 895204. The Teacher is Shyam Nataraj, one of the senior disciples of Swami Parthasarathy of Vedanta Academy at Lonavala. This will be a live class, studying BG sloka-wise. Right now in 2nd chapter I think. Anyway, once you start attending, you will be able to pick up. Thanks and regards.

Dear Avinash, In any example, there always would be limitations and the examples always do not cover all aspects of the concept explained. Similar is the case you have cited above. The above example of Water of the Ocean and the wave is given to show the essential oneness of the water is both water; and one should concentrate on the Water aspect than the wave aspect in our transactions with the world and also in understanding ourselves; and not regarding the 'capabilities'. So one should not overextend the example.

Dear Avinash, re. your questions re. existence and consciousness, please listen again and again Dr. Sunder's presentation starting at around 35 mts into the video of 30th October, of the 13th chapter, and also Dr. Hegde's thereafter and also the last speaker, another speaker, Doctor Viswas, starting at 58 mts.

Avinashji, breathing or non-breathing proves the conscious-principle; but just even the 'seeing', proves the existence-principle!

You are confusing yourselves; Conscious-principle is one thing; and existence-principle is another; Both principles pervade a living human being; but only existence-principle in non-living being! Hope it is clear!

Sri Avinash; the existence-principle cannot leave a chair! Whatever 'is' is always 'is'. It is 'avinash'. Is-ness is always there in a thing. It can never become 'was'-ness. (its 'tense' is always 'present'. Taking your chair-example, we all have a facination for the chair(1); Is-ness also has it; it never leaves it. Like any politician; till Kaala, takes his/her charge. Even when chair is destroyed, the plastic 'is'; (now no more wooden chairs!), to be re-cycled, through the raddiwalla, into a new chair (punar-janma) ☺️

Great Sir. May all the blessings be on you and Yours.

Great! Thanks as always.

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Copied from transcript of Swami Paramarthananda's classes. 13th chapter, 2nd sloka. Jagad-vaicitrya-upalabdhē-ca; we see differences in the entire creation; disparity; so some jivās have got health; some jivās are born with diseases; some of them are sick; some are healthy; even dog, there is one street dog with all kinds of diseases and no one to take care of them; and there is another dog which has got sweater and which drives in air-conditioned benz with head and tongue out; so even among dogs there is difference. These differences cannot be created by Bhagavān; because Bhagavān being impartial and Bhagavān cannot be the cause for disparity; if Bhagavān is the cause of disparity then Bhagavān will become partial; therefore, for this disparity there must be a cause. And what must be the cause; dharma and adharma cause must be there and that is called saṁsāra. Therefore, he says; jagat vaicitrya upalabhdē; vaicitryam means disparity; vicitrasya bhavah vaicitraym; upalabhdē means we experiencing; this is the clue, hētu for inference; for anumana pramāṇam you always require hētu; what is the hētu; jagat vaicitriyam is the hētu; like smoke is the hētu for inferring what; the invisible fire. Similarly, disparity among people is the visible hētu for making the inference of the invisible factor; what is the invisible-factor which is sādhyam is dharma-adharmaḥ can be inferred; puṇyam and pāpam can be inferred. That is why in our culture if anybody is have good time we say he is puṇyvān. Puṇyam we cannot see but we infer; once we infer puṇyam we can infer what; suddenly one day, migrane, pāpam also. Therefore, dharma adharma is inferred; and once you inferred dharma-adharma; dharma-adharma-nimittaḥ-saṁsāraḥ api we can infer; saṁsāra also which is caused by dharma and adharma. And you don't know which time puṇya will fructify and which time pāpam will fructify; it is like the Damocles sword; pāpam hangs above our head and we don't know when it will fall;that is called saṁsāra, which can be inferred. Not only it is pratyakṣa-virōdhā not only it is anumāna-virōdhā; it is śāstra virōdhā also. That we have to borrow from the previous paragraph. Śāstram also looks upon jīvā is samsāri only.

Basically the question itself is wrong; because the fact is first of all: there is no creation (that is what is said by Masters). Secondly, the second statement of the Masters is: God is also perfect and you are also perfect and the World also is Perfect; it is our misperception to see: (1) the world, which is Bhagavan himself, as the world and also as imperfect; and (2) and to see ourselves as imperfect and that something is to be done to become full or perfect. In the world, man who has only got the choice to choose his actions, out of ignorance, creates the inequalities; others (animals) are all as programmed; Man is only in default always; his own programming of his own actions is in 'fault' mode by default; he can only toggle it to 'no fault' mode, by following the sruti, the dharmas. The jnani never sees a faulty-world; tasmat jnani-bhava; this is the highest exhortation of Krishna to the Arjuna-ness' in ourselves. Tad tvam asi is the upadesa vakya of the Masters. We have to internalise it to make it The Truth. Of course the answer will not satisfy you; continue internalising the Geeta, daily. Na chirat, soon you will see a perfect world by becoming a jnani. ☺️

Yes. It was correctly said that meditation is not for those experiences. In fact that there are lot of misconceptions of meditation; sitting with closed eyes trying to restrain the mind, etc. are not at all meditations; meditation is not Act. It is just a 'happening'; it is an effect; it cannot be a cause; one cannot make it happen; it should be sahajam; involuntary; It happens by the quality of one's life lead 24x7x365x many many years; yad bhavam tad bhavathi; where you thoughts are always most of the waking hours? whether it is conscious, spontaneous, etc. That mediation is a state reached by following karma-yoga life style; and that too nishkama-karma-yoga for deades and decades. So therefore one cannot practice 'meditation'; though you may attend courses selling meditation for 1000 Dollars; highfi gurus flying with their own aircrafts with their witchcrafts, with wi-fi zoom classes, cannot teach meditation; (keep away from all of them, when anyone talks of teaching meditation, run as fast as you can from that source). Step-by-step following Nishkaama-karma-yoga; one glides into it; as in a conveyor-belt to the next stage. It cannot be a pole-vault, even without the vault; Be wary of mystics and mystic experiences; because they do not tick normally! One gets caught in its power and they are road-blocks to spirituality. The mystics can only guide you generally and not specifically; there is no short cut to meditation. Stick to traditional teachers and traditional teaching of vedanta, like these classes; and take a sincere effort to allot quality time daily for study under a teacher and also self-study and do regular introspection of our thoughts and actions; that is called mindful-living; alert-living viz-a-viz. a let-living, i.e. that is your senses decide what you should do each moment (in malayalam and Tamil there is a phrase for these characters who live every thought that arises in their waking hours, that is the mind-lead, our elders classify them 'Tan-thoni'; a rowdy-type-character who never listen to elders or their own mind for sense of values, means a follower of the mind without any restraint or even awareness. That is where the picture of ratha kalpana of the Gita borrowed from the Kathopanishad comes in; also the example of the tortoise from the 2nd chapter; kurmoangani sarvasaha. This is what is the significance of the kurma below the dvaja-stampa in some temples or the kurma-arathi-lamp in the puja room; i.e., before entering the spiritual-temple, one should be sense-controlled, with a sthira mathih, like the kurma who never lets out its anga where it senses danger! That is not the external-temple, in Balaji or Guruvayoor or Badrinath or Kasi; it is within. Therefore, do not even wish for these mystical experiences in dream itself! Swami Vivekananda and other great masters have all come in this life with tons of carry forward vasanas or gunas from many past lives; and so let us keep them for inspiration as the goal; and we also can, if our direction is right and the right-effort appropriate, reach it in this life itself. That's why Swami Paramarthananda always stresses: Consistent and systematic practice under the guidance of a competent acharya, for a length of time.

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Thanks for the slides and the notes.

Great help. Thanks for publishing it. Are you planning to do this for the first chapter also?